I did some research today and thought I would share why I think Yonder Alonso should not be traded this offseason. I will show his minor league stats and also compare him to Joey Votto and see what Votto got in the minors also.
First off, Yonder Alonso was drafted by the Reds in the 1st round (7th) in the 2005 Amateur Draft. Joey Votto was drafted in the 2nd round (44th) of the 2002 Amateur Draft. Alonso was rated #35 prospect pre-2009, #45 pre-2010 and #73 pre-2011. Votto was rated #43 pre-2007 and #44 pre-2008.
In four seasons in the Minors Alonso had a .293 BA, .370 OBP, .466 SLG, and .837 OPS with 36 HR, 179 RBIs, 148 BB, 203 SO in 1340 PA.
4 Seasons 1340 .293 .370 .466 .837 AA (2 seasons) AA 242 .282 .380 .432 .812 AAA (2 seasons) AAA 854 .296 .364 .478 .842 A+ (2 seasons) A+ 226 .304 .389 .485 .874 Rk (1 season) Rk 18 .133 .278 .133 .411
Joey Votto on the other hand played 7 seasons in the minors and got a .289 BA, .386 OBP, .477 SLG and .862 OPS with 97 HR, 438 RBIs, 404 BB, 665 SO in 3016 PA.
7 Seasons 3016 .289 .386 .477 .862 A (3 seasons) A 715 .280 .397 .425 .822 A+ (3 seasons) A+ 628 .262 .338 .444 .782 Rk (2 seasons) Rk 503 .296 .408 .506 .914 AA (1 season) AA 590 .319 .408 .547 .956 AAA (1 season) AAA 580 .294 .381 .478 .859
It was said that Yonder Alonso would be training to play LF for the Reds in 2012 which would bring even more value for him later on after he gets one full season. And as we all know, it has already been reported that Joey Votto will not be returning to the Reds after his contract runs out. Keeping Yonder Alonso so then he can play 1B when Votto does leave is the best bet. And it gives the Reds the oppurtunity to shop Votto away at the trade deadline either bringing in young prospects or important pieces to the puzzle to help them get an extra push into the playoffs. I think they would be able to get their top of the rotation starter and then some if they offered someone like Joey Votto.
I heard a rumor at the trade deadline in 2011 that Toronto Blue Jays and Cincinnati Reds were talking about a deal that would involve Joey Votto and Jose Bautista but it never happened because the Blue Jays were asking for more. One thing I am hoping is that scouts and front offices have not hurt Joey Votto’s value by saying, “he is only hitting that good because of Great American Ball Park.” Sure any average player can become a better hitter by playing in that park but that should not bring his value down to the point where teams are wanting a top prospect with him in order to trade their best player. In my mind, the Reds made the right decision by not trading him with another player for Bautista. And this also means they should not trade away Yonder Alonso until they get at least one full season out of him to see what he can do. Many will say that if he does not do well then his value will drop a lot but I would rather take that chance than trade him and watch him become an All-Star in his first season for some other team. (All of our luck a National League team.)
Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see Joey Votto stay with the Reds for the rest of his career but if he has not intention of re-signing I am all for trading him away before he becomes a free agent. At least this way the Reds would have a choice to where he would play or influence him to sign with the team they trade with and I hope that would be in the American League. I really would hate to see him sign in the offseason with a National League Central team.
Ryan Hanigan has become the next victim to be brought up in trade rumors for the Cincinnati Reds. It has been reported that Los Angeles Angels are interested in the Reds catcher. I can not see the Reds trading Hanigan away but if they were offered a good deal they might. Some people are suggesting they trade him then re-sign Ramon Hernandez.
Hanigan was signed by the Reds as an amateur free agent in 2002. At 21 years old he started off with the Dayton Dragons in the Midwest League. .273 BA, .333 OBP and a .364 SLG in 6 games. 2003 he played for Dayton again playing in 92 games and getting a .277 BA. He also played one game in AAA for Louisville Bats (International League) that season going 1 for 3. He then played for Potomac Cannons in 2004 getting a .296 BA in 119 games. In 2005 he played for the Chattanooga Lookouts in the Southern League getting a .321 BA in 100 games. He returned to Chattanooga in 2006 playing in 56 games and finishing with a .246 BA. He also played 8 games for Louisville going 2 for 13.
Ryan Hanigan made his major league debut on Sunday, September 9, 2007, at Great American Ball Park. It was the bottom of the 5th inning and the Reds were behind 7 runs when he pinch hit for Kirk Saarloos batting 9th against Ben Sheets. He hit the first pitch he saw for a ground ball double to left field. Norris Hopper then hit a line drive to right field getting Hanigan to 3rd. Jeff Keppinger then hit a weak popfly to SS and Ben Sheets threw a wild pitch to Ken Griffey scoring Hanigan. The Milwaukee Brewers went on to win that game 10 – 5 with Ben Sheets getting the win (12 – 4) and Phil Dumatrait getting the loss. (0 – 4)
Hanigan played 5 games for the Reds in 2007 getting a .300 batting average. He also played 60 games for Chattanooga getting a .299 BA and for Louisville playing in 41 games and getting a .252 BA.
In 2008 he played 75 games for Louisville and got a .324 BA. He also played 31 games for the Reds that season getting a .271 BA. He also has 15 stolen bases against him while throwing out 8, getting 35 CS%.
2009 he came in 2nd with 42.9 Caught Stealing % and 1st for Fielding % as a catcher with .998. With 90 games played he got a .263 BA with 37 walks and 31 strike outs. He also played 5 games in AAA for Louisville going 7 for 18.
In 2010 he played in 13 games for Louisville and went 11 for 46. He also played 70 games for the Reds and went 61 for 203. (.300 BA) He caught 13 and allowed 28 stolen bases.
He had 18 CS and 34 SB as a catcher for the Reds in 2011. Playing in 91 games and going 71 for 266. (.267 BA) getting 35 walks and 32 strike outs.
If he doesn’t get traded this should be his first year as the main catcher for the Reds. With Devin Mesoraco and Yasmani Grandal waiting to get some playing time also. Like I said before, I really can’t see him being traded this offseason but if the Reds get a very good offer they might pull the trigger then have to re-sign Ramon Hernandez or another catcher that will come play for a lower salary. I would love to see Corky Miller get the call up this season but I doubt that will happen.
I was doing some reading today about players that teams have added to their 40 man roster and players they did not. I came across a player that really caught my interest, Brandon Douglas. Detroit Tigers are leaving him open for the Rule 5 draft and this might be the player many teams jump for, including Cincinnati Reds.
Douglas was drafted by the Cincinnati Reds in the 32nd round of the 2007 MLB June Amateur Draft and the Detroit Tigers in the 11th round of the 2008 MLB June Amateur Draft.
At 22 years old he played for four teams in four different leagues his first season. (GCL Tigers, Oneonta Tigers, West Michigan Whitecaps and Erie SeaWolves) He ended that season with a total of 68 games, 90 hits and a .328 batting average. Going from Rookie ball through A and right into AA all in one season. In 2009 he played for West Michigan Whitecaps in the Midwest League getting .322 BA, .384 OBP, and a .374 SLG. 2010 he played on two teams and ended with 72 games played getting a total of 97 hits. He played in AA in 2011 and after playing 124 games he got 140 hits with 22 stolen bases and a .281 BA. His 4 season total looks very impressive with .313 BA, .361 OBP, .406 SLG in 347 games. Of course he has not played in AAA yet but I think he could really help out teams looking for a utility infielder. He played 82 games at shortstop, (.922 Fld%) 238 games at 2B (.979 Fld%) and 9 games at third. (.923 Fld%)
The Reds tried to get him in the 2007 Amateur draft so I wonder if they might make a play for him this offseason. With their 40 man roster full it is doubtful but I would not mind seeing this kid on a AAA team next season.
Year Age Tm Lg Lev Aff G AB H BA OBP SLG OPS 4 Seasons 347 1383 433 .313 .361 .406 .767 AA (3 seasons) AA 164 663 197 .297 .338 .401 .739 A (2 seasons) A 92 368 123 .334 .392 .397 .789 Rk (1 season) Rk 7 27 9 .333 .387 .519 .906 A- (1 season) A- 47 189 59 .312 .350 .407 .757 A+ (1 season) A+ 37 136 45 .331 .395 .426 .821
I got a chance to watch the Arizona Fall League Championship game to see the future of Major League Baseball. One player that really caught my attention was David Nick who played for the Salt River Rafters representing Arizona Diamonbacks.
David went 2 for 5 in the game with one triple, 3 RBIs and one run to help the Rafters win the game 9 – 3 over Surprise Saguaros.
David Nick was drafted by the Arizona Diamonbacks in the 4th round of the 2009 MLB June Amateur Draft. At age 19 in his first season he played 66 games for Missoula Osprey in the Pioneer League. He got a .286 average with a .350 OBP scoring 46 runs. 2010 he played for South Bend Silver Hawks in the Midwest League getting a .251 batting average in 128 games. In 2011 at 21 years old he played for Visalia Rawhide in the California League. He played in 132 games and finished with .300 BA, .342 OBP and .449 SLG scoring 99 runs and getting 13 homeruns. And of course in the Arizona Fall League for Salt River Rafters he finished with .298 BA, .352 OBP, .405 SLG and a .756 OPS scoring 13 runs and getting 25 hits with 84 at bats.
Of course many will say it is still way to early to tell how well this kid will do in Major League Baseball but I think he will do very well if he keeps doing what he did in 2011. After watching him play in the League Championship for the Arizona Fall League I will keep my eye on his future to see how well he does in 2012 and hopefully many more years to come.
As I looked through his stats I learned that he was drafted by Montreal Expos in the 2000 amateur draft. At 17 years old he played 55 games for GCL Expos in the Gulf Coast League. He got 60 hits off of 205 at bats giving him a .293 batting average. in 2001 he played 123 games for Clinton Lumber Kings in the Midwest League where he got 121 hits in 451 at bats, .268 BA. In 2002 he played 75 games for Brevard County Manatees in the Florida State League and 47 games for Kinston Indians in the Carolina League with a total of 125 hits in 428 at bats giving him a .292 batting average. 2003 he played AA ball for Akron Aeros in the Eastern League where he played 128 games getting 151 hits in 496 at bats, .304 BA. He then went on to play AAA ball with Buffalo Bisons in the International league in 2004 playing in 101 games getting a .287 batting average.
His Major League Baseball debut was on Wednesday, July 21, 2004, at Jacobs Field in front of 21,922 fans. Where the Indians took on Chicago White Sox. At that time the Indians were 46 – 48 while the White Sox were 49 – 42. It was the bottom of the 9th and the Indians were down 14 – 0 with two out when Grady Sizemore stepped up to bat against White Sox pitcher Mark Buehrle. (Another free agent this offseason) His first pitch was fouled off. The second pitch was a popfly to second base and the game was over. Not the kind of debut most young players dream about but he has done pretty good for himself ever since.
Sizemore has eight seasons with the Indians with 892 games played, he used to be a very dependable player with two straight seasons (2006 and 2007) getting 162 games played. He has a career batting average of .269 with a .357 OBP and a .473 SLG. He has scored 601 runs and got 948 hits with 190 being his season high which he got in 2006. Grady won the American League MVP from 2005 to 2008. He was in the All-Star Games from 2006 to 2008. He won Gold Gloves in 2007 and 2008 and a Silver Sluggers Award in 2008. The question many are asking this offseason is; will he ever be that good again?
In 2011 he played 71 games and got 60 hits giving him a .224 batting average. He also did some time in the minors playing for AA Akron Aeros and AAA Columbus Clippers getting a total of 8 games for both teams and a .357 batting average. Will 2012 be a better year for Sizemore if he re-signs with the Indians? No one knows but it sure will be interesting to find out.
It is a safe bet for the Indians to re-sign him for a one year contract to see if maybe he will bounce back and get the numbers he once did. I also think it is a good deal for Sizemore cause he will have another year to pick up his game so then he might be able to impress more teams before next offseason so he can get a bigger and better contract for the future. I think it is a win / win situation for both involved and hopefully he does well.